he's a forest -- >> he works for the u.s. forest service. >> jimmy: u.s. forest service. >> yeah. >> jimmy: so, what would that mean? a lot of camping? or what does that mean? >> oh, yeah. >> jimmy: yeah. i'm not a camper. are you a camper? you must be. >> i -- never again. you know, there was so much camping when we grew up, and there was so much, like, militant camping. it was sort of rain or shine, you are camping, you are pitching that tent, you're going to do it. and we're just like, "it's cold outside!" [ laughter ] >> jimmy: yeah. i never went camping at all. like, maybe once or twice like as a party in the woods in high school or something. and then -- [ laughter ] >> a party in the woods! >> jimmy: someone threw a blanket over me and said, "let him sleep." >> that wasn't a party. >> jimmy: that's camping, yeah. that was camping for me. yeah. >> i still like to be outside, and i like the outdoors and stuff, but i like to have a bed and a toilet. conveniences. those crazy conveniences. >> jimmy: those crazy things. a toilet, yeah. absolutely. did yo